Grok 4 Wows, The Bitter Lesson, Elon's Third Party, AI Browsers, SCOTUS backs POTUS on RIFs
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
The Besties welcome Travis Kalanick and Keith Rabois!
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Guests
Travis Kalanick and Keith Rabois join the Besties!
Topics Discussed
- Travis on Pony.ai / Uber rumors and the state of Cloud Kitchens
- xAI launches Grok 4, learning "The Bitter Lesson" in AI
- How Grok can catch ChatGPT in usage, OpenAI's product excellence
- Perplexity and OpenAI building AI-native browsers and taking on Chrome
- Elon's "America Party": is now the right time for a third party, and could he make an impact in 2026?
- SCOTUS backs Trump over federal government RIF plans
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Credits
Intro Music: rb.gy/tppkzl – @yung_spielburg
Intro Video: @TheZachEffect
Referenced Links
- NYT: Uber-Travis Kalanick self-driving car deal
- Grok website
- TechCrunch: AI training data exhaustion
- The Bitter Lesson
- TechCrunch: Perplexity Comet AI browser
- Polymarket: America Party registration odds
- Roper Center: Presidential approval
- Gallup: Third party support
- White House: Department of Government Efficiency
- SCOTUS Blog: Trump RIF plans
- AFGE: Lawsuits against Trump
- CEI: 2025 rule numbers
- Netflix: American Manhunt—Osama Bin Laden
Raw Description
<p>(0:00) The Besties welcome Travis Kalanick and Keith Rabois!</p> <p>(3:02) Travis on Pony.ai / Uber rumors and the state of Cloud Kitchens</p> <p>(18:51) xAI launches Grok 4, learning "The Bitter Lesson" in AI</p> <p>(40:36) How Grok can catch ChatGPT in usage, OpenAI's product excellence</p> <p>(46:27) Perplexity and OpenAI building AI-native browsers and taking on Chrome</p> <p>(58:01) Elon's "America Party": is now the right time for a third party, and could he make an impact in 2026?</p> <p>(1:13:12) SCOTUS backs Trump over federal government RIF plans</p> <p>Follow Keith:</p> <p><a href="https://x.com/rabois">https://x.com/rabois</a></p> <p>Follow Travis:</p> <p><a href="https://x.com/travisk">https://x.com/travisk</a></p> <p>Get The Besties All-In Tequila:</p> <p><a href= "https://tequila.allin.com">https://tequila.allin.com</a></p> <p>Join us at the All-In Summit:</p> <p><a href= "https://allin.com/summit">https://allin.com/summit</a></p> <p>Summit scholarship application:</p> <p><a href="http://bit.ly/4kyZqFJ">http://bit.ly/4kyZqFJ</a></p> <p>Follow the besties:</p> <p><a href="https://x.com/chamath">https://x.com/chamath</a></p> <p><a href="https://x.com/Jason">https://x.com/Jason</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/DavidSacks">https://x.com/DavidSacks</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/friedberg">https://x.com/friedberg</a></p> <p>Follow on X:</p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/theallinpod">https://x.com/theallinpod</a></p> <p>Follow on Instagram:</p> <p><a href= "https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod">https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod</a></p> <p>Follow on TikTok:</p> <p><a href= "https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod">https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod</a></p> <p>Follow on LinkedIn:</p> <p><a href= "https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod">https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod</a></p> <p>Intro Music Credit:</p> <p><a href="https://rb.gy/tppkzl">https://rb.gy/tppkzl</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/yung_spielburg">https://x.com/yung_spielburg</a></p> <p>Intro Video Credit:</p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/TheZachEffect">https://x.com/TheZachEffect</a></p> <p>Referenced in the show:</p> <p><a href= "https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/26/technology/uber-travis-kalanick-self-driving-car-deal.html"> https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/26/technology/uber-travis-kalanick-self-driving-car-deal.html</a></p> <p><a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW5fJikPmfM">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW5fJikPmfM</a></p> <p><a href="https://grok.com">https://grok.com</a></p> <p><a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wTA90BYo30">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wTA90BYo30</a></p> <p><a href= "https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/08/elon-musk-agrees-that-weve-exhausted-ai-training-data"> https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/08/elon-musk-agrees-that-weve-exhausted-ai-training-data</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/ArtificialAnlys/status/1943166841150644622">https://x.com/ArtificialAnlys/status/1943166841150644622</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1943192643439337753">https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1943192643439337753</a></p> <p><a href= "http://www.incompleteideas.net/IncIdeas/BitterLesson.html">http://www.incompleteideas.net/IncIdeas/BitterLesson.html</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/chamath/status/1943177837956968499">https://x.com/chamath/status/1943177837956968499</a></p> <p><a href= "https://techcrunch.com/2025/07/09/perplexity-launches-comet-an-ai-powered-web-browser"> https://techcrunch.com/2025/07/09/perplexity-launches-comet-an-ai-powered-web-browser</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/perplexity_ai/status/1942969263305671143">https://x.com/perplexity_ai/status/1942969263305671143</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1941584569523732930">https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1941584569523732930</a></p> <p><a href= "https://polymarket.com/event/will-elon-register-the-america-party-by"> https://polymarket.com/event/will-elon-register-the-america-party-by</a></p> <p><a href= "https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/presidential-approval/highslows">https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/presidential-approval/highslows</a></p> <p><a href= "https://news.gallup.com/poll/651278/support-third-political-party-dips.aspx"> https://news.gallup.com/poll/651278/support-third-political-party-dips.aspx</a></p> <p><a href= "https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/implementing-the-presidents-department-of-government-efficiency-workforce-optimization-initiative"> https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/implementing-the-presidents-department-of-government-efficiency-workforce-optimization-initiative</a></p> <p><a href= "https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/07/supreme-court-allows-trump-administration-to-implement-plans-to-significantly-reduce-the-federal-workforce"> https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/07/supreme-court-allows-trump-administration-to-implement-plans-to-significantly-reduce-the-federal-workforce</a></p> <p><a href= "https://www.afge.org/article/summary-of-afge-lawsuits-against-trump--how-litigation-works"> https://www.afge.org/article/summary-of-afge-lawsuits-against-trump--how-litigation-works</a></p> <p><a href= "https://cei.org/publication/10kc-2025-numbers-of-rules">https://cei.org/publication/10kc-2025-numbers-of-rules</a></p> <p><a href= "https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/american-manhunt-osama-bin-laden-release-date-news"> https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/american-manhunt-osama-bin-laden-release-date-news</a></p>
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Show Notes
Guests
Travis Kalanick and Keith Rabois join the Besties!
Topics Discussed
- Travis on Pony.ai / Uber rumors and the state of Cloud Kitchens
- xAI launches Grok 4, learning "The Bitter Lesson" in AI
- How Grok can catch ChatGPT in usage, OpenAI's product excellence
- Perplexity and OpenAI building AI-native browsers and taking on Chrome
- Elon's "America Party": is now the right time for a third party, and could he make an impact in 2026?
- SCOTUS backs Trump over federal government RIF plans
Follow The Guests
Follow The Besties
Follow All-In Podcast
Get All-In Tequila
All-In Summit
Credits
Intro Music: rb.gy/tppkzl – @yung_spielburg
Intro Video: @TheZachEffect
Referenced Links
- NYT: Uber-Travis Kalanick self-driving car deal
- Grok website
- TechCrunch: AI training data exhaustion
- The Bitter Lesson
- TechCrunch: Perplexity Comet AI browser
- Polymarket: America Party registration odds
- Roper Center: Presidential approval
- Gallup: Third party support
- White House: Department of Government Efficiency
- SCOTUS Blog: Trump RIF plans
- AFGE: Lawsuits against Trump
- CEI: 2025 rule numbers
- Netflix: American Manhunt—Osama Bin Laden
Raw Description
<p>(0:00) The Besties welcome Travis Kalanick and Keith Rabois!</p> <p>(3:02) Travis on Pony.ai / Uber rumors and the state of Cloud Kitchens</p> <p>(18:51) xAI launches Grok 4, learning "The Bitter Lesson" in AI</p> <p>(40:36) How Grok can catch ChatGPT in usage, OpenAI's product excellence</p> <p>(46:27) Perplexity and OpenAI building AI-native browsers and taking on Chrome</p> <p>(58:01) Elon's "America Party": is now the right time for a third party, and could he make an impact in 2026?</p> <p>(1:13:12) SCOTUS backs Trump over federal government RIF plans</p> <p>Follow Keith:</p> <p><a href="https://x.com/rabois">https://x.com/rabois</a></p> <p>Follow Travis:</p> <p><a href="https://x.com/travisk">https://x.com/travisk</a></p> <p>Get The Besties All-In Tequila:</p> <p><a href= "https://tequila.allin.com">https://tequila.allin.com</a></p> <p>Join us at the All-In Summit:</p> <p><a href= "https://allin.com/summit">https://allin.com/summit</a></p> <p>Summit scholarship application:</p> <p><a href="http://bit.ly/4kyZqFJ">http://bit.ly/4kyZqFJ</a></p> <p>Follow the besties:</p> <p><a href="https://x.com/chamath">https://x.com/chamath</a></p> <p><a href="https://x.com/Jason">https://x.com/Jason</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/DavidSacks">https://x.com/DavidSacks</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/friedberg">https://x.com/friedberg</a></p> <p>Follow on X:</p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/theallinpod">https://x.com/theallinpod</a></p> <p>Follow on Instagram:</p> <p><a href= "https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod">https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod</a></p> <p>Follow on TikTok:</p> <p><a href= "https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod">https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod</a></p> <p>Follow on LinkedIn:</p> <p><a href= "https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod">https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod</a></p> <p>Intro Music Credit:</p> <p><a href="https://rb.gy/tppkzl">https://rb.gy/tppkzl</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/yung_spielburg">https://x.com/yung_spielburg</a></p> <p>Intro Video Credit:</p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/TheZachEffect">https://x.com/TheZachEffect</a></p> <p>Referenced in the show:</p> <p><a href= "https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/26/technology/uber-travis-kalanick-self-driving-car-deal.html"> https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/26/technology/uber-travis-kalanick-self-driving-car-deal.html</a></p> <p><a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW5fJikPmfM">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW5fJikPmfM</a></p> <p><a href="https://grok.com">https://grok.com</a></p> <p><a href= "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wTA90BYo30">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wTA90BYo30</a></p> <p><a href= "https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/08/elon-musk-agrees-that-weve-exhausted-ai-training-data"> https://techcrunch.com/2025/01/08/elon-musk-agrees-that-weve-exhausted-ai-training-data</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/ArtificialAnlys/status/1943166841150644622">https://x.com/ArtificialAnlys/status/1943166841150644622</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1943192643439337753">https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1943192643439337753</a></p> <p><a href= "http://www.incompleteideas.net/IncIdeas/BitterLesson.html">http://www.incompleteideas.net/IncIdeas/BitterLesson.html</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/chamath/status/1943177837956968499">https://x.com/chamath/status/1943177837956968499</a></p> <p><a href= "https://techcrunch.com/2025/07/09/perplexity-launches-comet-an-ai-powered-web-browser"> https://techcrunch.com/2025/07/09/perplexity-launches-comet-an-ai-powered-web-browser</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/perplexity_ai/status/1942969263305671143">https://x.com/perplexity_ai/status/1942969263305671143</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1941584569523732930">https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1941584569523732930</a></p> <p><a href= "https://polymarket.com/event/will-elon-register-the-america-party-by"> https://polymarket.com/event/will-elon-register-the-america-party-by</a></p> <p><a href= "https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/presidential-approval/highslows">https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/presidential-approval/highslows</a></p> <p><a href= "https://news.gallup.com/poll/651278/support-third-political-party-dips.aspx"> https://news.gallup.com/poll/651278/support-third-political-party-dips.aspx</a></p> <p><a href= "https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/implementing-the-presidents-department-of-government-efficiency-workforce-optimization-initiative"> https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/implementing-the-presidents-department-of-government-efficiency-workforce-optimization-initiative</a></p> <p><a href= "https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/07/supreme-court-allows-trump-administration-to-implement-plans-to-significantly-reduce-the-federal-workforce"> https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/07/supreme-court-allows-trump-administration-to-implement-plans-to-significantly-reduce-the-federal-workforce</a></p> <p><a href= "https://www.afge.org/article/summary-of-afge-lawsuits-against-trump--how-litigation-works"> https://www.afge.org/article/summary-of-afge-lawsuits-against-trump--how-litigation-works</a></p> <p><a href= "https://cei.org/publication/10kc-2025-numbers-of-rules">https://cei.org/publication/10kc-2025-numbers-of-rules</a></p> <p><a href= "https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/american-manhunt-osama-bin-laden-release-date-news"> https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/american-manhunt-osama-bin-laden-release-date-news</a></p>