Massive Somali Fraud in Minnesota with Nick Shirley, California Asset Seizure, $20B Groq-Nvidia Deal
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Bestie Intros
Nick Shirley joins the show to discuss his recent investigation on potential daycare fraud in Minnesota.
Nick's Background
Nick's background, how he got into investigative reporting and YouTube, independence, finding this story.
Why This Fraud Story is Resonating
Why this fraud story is resonating, why the national press initially avoided it.
Future Plans & Scale of Fraud
Future plans, California, possible Al-Shabaab connection, how high up does Minnesota's fraud go? What the scale of fraud means for America, Minnesota's future, potential patronage scheme.
California's Wealth Tax
CA's wealth tax: normalizing the seizure of private property.
Groq-Nvidia Deal
Chamath breaks down the $20B Groq-Nvidia deal.
Follow Nick Shirley
Follow the Besties
Follow All-In Pod
Intro Music
Intro Video
References
- Nick Shirley — Fraud Investigation
- Star Tribune — Minnesota Housing Fraud Scheme
- New York Times — Fraud Minnesota
- Fox 9 — Nearly $1 Billion Schemes
- Eric L. Daugherty
- Kevin Kiley
- Chamath
- C_3C_3
- Oli London
- Tom Hennessey
- WallStreetApes
- Mario Nawfal
- Minnesota DCYF — Child Care Assistance Program
- Susan Crabtree
- Chamath
- Aaron Burnett
- The Somali Patronage System — AMUSE Newsletter
- Daily Wire
- Right Angle News
- California Auditor Report 2025-601
Raw Description
<p>(0:00) Bestie intros! Nick Shirley joins the show to discuss his recent investigation on potential daycare fraud in Minnesota</p> <p>(3:32) Nick's background, how he got into investigative reporting and YouTube, independence, finding this story</p> <p>(16:36) Why this fraud story is resonating, why the national press initially avoided it</p> <p>(30:08) Future plans, California, possible Al-Shabaab connection, how high up does Minnesota's fraud go?</p> <p>(49:15) What the scale of fraud means for America, Minnesota's future, potential patronage scheme</p> <p>(1:09:06) CA's wealth tax: normalizing the seizure of private property</p> <p>(1:33:56) Chamath breaks down the $20B Groq-Nvidia deal</p> <p>Follow Nick Shirley:</p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/nickshirleyy">https://x.com/nickshirleyy</a></p> <p>Follow the besties:</p> <p><a href="https://x.com/chamath">https://x.com/chamath</a></p> <p><a href="https://x.com/Jason">https://x.com/Jason</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/DavidSacks">https://x.com/DavidSacks</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/friedberg">https://x.com/friedberg</a></p> <p>Follow on X:</p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/theallinpod">https://x.com/theallinpod</a></p> <p>Follow on Instagram:</p> <p><a href= "https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod">https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod</a></p> <p>Follow on TikTok:</p> <p><a href= "https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod">https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod</a></p> <p>Follow on LinkedIn:</p> <p><a href= "https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod">https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod</a></p> <p>Intro Music Credit:</p> <p><a href="https://rb.gy/tppkzl">https://rb.gy/tppkzl</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/yung_spielburg">https://x.com/yung_spielburg</a></p> <p>Intro Video Credit:</p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/TheZachEffect">https://x.com/TheZachEffect</a></p> <p>Referenced in the show:</p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/nickshirleyy/status/2004642794862961123">https://x.com/nickshirleyy/status/2004642794862961123</a></p> <p><a href= "https://www.startribune.com/prosecutors-charge-5-people-in-a-minnesota-housing-fraud-scheme/601548944"> https://www.startribune.com/prosecutors-charge-5-people-in-a-minnesota-housing-fraud-scheme/601548944</a></p> <p><a href= "https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/29/us/fraud-minnesota-somali.html"> https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/29/us/fraud-minnesota-somali.html</a></p> <p><a href= "https://www.fox9.com/news/fraud-minnesota-detailing-nearly-1-billion-schemes"> https://www.fox9.com/news/fraud-minnesota-detailing-nearly-1-billion-schemes</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/2005410646603473256">https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/2005410646603473256</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/kevinkileyca/status/2006053056660541840">https://x.com/kevinkileyca/status/2006053056660541840</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/chamath/status/2006087862492582084">https://x.com/chamath/status/2006087862492582084</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/C_3C_3/status/2005722313795440956">https://x.com/C_3C_3/status/2005722313795440956</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/2005988021946999166">https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/2005988021946999166</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/tomhennessey69/status/2005556784228909441">https://x.com/tomhennessey69/status/2005556784228909441</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/2005849513676923358">https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/2005849513676923358</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/2005179409465299219">https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/2005179409465299219</a></p> <p><a href= "https://dcyf.mn.gov/programs-directory/child-care-assistance-program"> https://dcyf.mn.gov/programs-directory/child-care-assistance-program</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/susancrabtree/status/2006079778873565541">https://x.com/susancrabtree/status/2006079778873565541</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/chamath/status/2005386348169953607">https://x.com/chamath/status/2005386348169953607</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/aaronburnett/status/2003874734661161064">https://x.com/aaronburnett/status/2003874734661161064</a></p> <p><a href= "https://newsletter.amuseonx.com/p/the-somali-patronage-system-has-taken"> https://newsletter.amuseonx.com/p/the-somali-patronage-system-has-taken</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/realdailywire/status/2006122428196442388">https://x.com/realdailywire/status/2006122428196442388</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/rightanglenews/status/2006375449404866720">https://x.com/rightanglenews/status/2006375449404866720</a></p> <p><a href= "https://www.auditor.ca.gov/reports/2025-601/">https://www.auditor.ca.gov/reports/2025-601/</a></p>
Chapters (1/7)
Show Notes
Bestie Intros
Nick Shirley joins the show to discuss his recent investigation on potential daycare fraud in Minnesota.
Nick's Background
Nick's background, how he got into investigative reporting and YouTube, independence, finding this story.
Why This Fraud Story is Resonating
Why this fraud story is resonating, why the national press initially avoided it.
Future Plans & Scale of Fraud
Future plans, California, possible Al-Shabaab connection, how high up does Minnesota's fraud go? What the scale of fraud means for America, Minnesota's future, potential patronage scheme.
California's Wealth Tax
CA's wealth tax: normalizing the seizure of private property.
Groq-Nvidia Deal
Chamath breaks down the $20B Groq-Nvidia deal.
Follow Nick Shirley
Follow the Besties
Follow All-In Pod
Intro Music
Intro Video
References
- Nick Shirley — Fraud Investigation
- Star Tribune — Minnesota Housing Fraud Scheme
- New York Times — Fraud Minnesota
- Fox 9 — Nearly $1 Billion Schemes
- Eric L. Daugherty
- Kevin Kiley
- Chamath
- C_3C_3
- Oli London
- Tom Hennessey
- WallStreetApes
- Mario Nawfal
- Minnesota DCYF — Child Care Assistance Program
- Susan Crabtree
- Chamath
- Aaron Burnett
- The Somali Patronage System — AMUSE Newsletter
- Daily Wire
- Right Angle News
- California Auditor Report 2025-601
Raw Description
<p>(0:00) Bestie intros! Nick Shirley joins the show to discuss his recent investigation on potential daycare fraud in Minnesota</p> <p>(3:32) Nick's background, how he got into investigative reporting and YouTube, independence, finding this story</p> <p>(16:36) Why this fraud story is resonating, why the national press initially avoided it</p> <p>(30:08) Future plans, California, possible Al-Shabaab connection, how high up does Minnesota's fraud go?</p> <p>(49:15) What the scale of fraud means for America, Minnesota's future, potential patronage scheme</p> <p>(1:09:06) CA's wealth tax: normalizing the seizure of private property</p> <p>(1:33:56) Chamath breaks down the $20B Groq-Nvidia deal</p> <p>Follow Nick Shirley:</p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/nickshirleyy">https://x.com/nickshirleyy</a></p> <p>Follow the besties:</p> <p><a href="https://x.com/chamath">https://x.com/chamath</a></p> <p><a href="https://x.com/Jason">https://x.com/Jason</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/DavidSacks">https://x.com/DavidSacks</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/friedberg">https://x.com/friedberg</a></p> <p>Follow on X:</p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/theallinpod">https://x.com/theallinpod</a></p> <p>Follow on Instagram:</p> <p><a href= "https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod">https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod</a></p> <p>Follow on TikTok:</p> <p><a href= "https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod">https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod</a></p> <p>Follow on LinkedIn:</p> <p><a href= "https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod">https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod</a></p> <p>Intro Music Credit:</p> <p><a href="https://rb.gy/tppkzl">https://rb.gy/tppkzl</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/yung_spielburg">https://x.com/yung_spielburg</a></p> <p>Intro Video Credit:</p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/TheZachEffect">https://x.com/TheZachEffect</a></p> <p>Referenced in the show:</p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/nickshirleyy/status/2004642794862961123">https://x.com/nickshirleyy/status/2004642794862961123</a></p> <p><a href= "https://www.startribune.com/prosecutors-charge-5-people-in-a-minnesota-housing-fraud-scheme/601548944"> https://www.startribune.com/prosecutors-charge-5-people-in-a-minnesota-housing-fraud-scheme/601548944</a></p> <p><a href= "https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/29/us/fraud-minnesota-somali.html"> https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/29/us/fraud-minnesota-somali.html</a></p> <p><a href= "https://www.fox9.com/news/fraud-minnesota-detailing-nearly-1-billion-schemes"> https://www.fox9.com/news/fraud-minnesota-detailing-nearly-1-billion-schemes</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/2005410646603473256">https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/2005410646603473256</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/kevinkileyca/status/2006053056660541840">https://x.com/kevinkileyca/status/2006053056660541840</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/chamath/status/2006087862492582084">https://x.com/chamath/status/2006087862492582084</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/C_3C_3/status/2005722313795440956">https://x.com/C_3C_3/status/2005722313795440956</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/2005988021946999166">https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/2005988021946999166</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/tomhennessey69/status/2005556784228909441">https://x.com/tomhennessey69/status/2005556784228909441</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/2005849513676923358">https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/2005849513676923358</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/2005179409465299219">https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/2005179409465299219</a></p> <p><a href= "https://dcyf.mn.gov/programs-directory/child-care-assistance-program"> https://dcyf.mn.gov/programs-directory/child-care-assistance-program</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/susancrabtree/status/2006079778873565541">https://x.com/susancrabtree/status/2006079778873565541</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/chamath/status/2005386348169953607">https://x.com/chamath/status/2005386348169953607</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/aaronburnett/status/2003874734661161064">https://x.com/aaronburnett/status/2003874734661161064</a></p> <p><a href= "https://newsletter.amuseonx.com/p/the-somali-patronage-system-has-taken"> https://newsletter.amuseonx.com/p/the-somali-patronage-system-has-taken</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/realdailywire/status/2006122428196442388">https://x.com/realdailywire/status/2006122428196442388</a></p> <p><a href= "https://x.com/rightanglenews/status/2006375449404866720">https://x.com/rightanglenews/status/2006375449404866720</a></p> <p><a href= "https://www.auditor.ca.gov/reports/2025-601/">https://www.auditor.ca.gov/reports/2025-601/</a></p>