How to Build a Company That Never Loses Its Soul | Eric Ries - EP 775
Passion Struck with John R. Miles
How does a company that starts with a meaningful mission slowly become a place people no longer trust?
It happens more often than most leaders realize. Organizations begin with a desire to serve customers, employees, and communities, but over time, pressure for short-term results can quietly pull them away from the values that once defined them. The result isn't just declining performance—it's the loss of trust, purpose, and humanity.
In this episode of Passion Struck, John R. Miles sits down with entrepreneur, bestselling author, and Lean Startup creator Eric Ries to explore why great companies lose their way—and what leaders can do to prevent it. Drawing on insights from his new book, Incorruptible, Eric introduces the idea of financial gravity, the invisible force that pulls organizations away from long-term value creation and toward short-term extraction. Through stories of companies like Costco, Microsoft, Walmart, Amazon, and Silicon Valley Bank, he reveals why trust is an organization's greatest competitive advantage and how leaders can build institutions that endure.
In this episode, you'll learn:
- Why successful companies often drift away from their original mission
- How "financial gravity" quietly reshapes leadership decisions
- The difference between building shareholder value and building lasting trust
- What organizations like Costco have done to protect their values as they grow
- Why culture alone isn't enough to keep companies aligned
- Practical strategies for creating organizations that people believe in
- How leaders can build businesses that succeed without losing their humanity
Whether you're leading a startup, a global organization, or a small team, this conversation offers a practical blueprint for creating a culture where people trust the mission as much as the results. Because the companies that stand the test of time don't just grow bigger. They stay true to what made them worth building in the first place.
Limited Time Offers:
- FODZYME: Get 30% off your first order when you go to ICanEatAgain.com/PASSIONSTRUCK
- Shopify: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at SHOPIFY.COM/PASSIONSTRUCK
Download the companion Substack Article and Workbook
Learn More About Eric Ries: ericries.com
Get Eric's New Book: Incorruptible: Why Good Companies Go Bad and How Great Companies Stay Great
Pre-Order The Mattering Effect: https://matteringeffect.com/. Take the 90-second diagnostic to see if you're disappearing.
Explore the Show: passionstruck.com/starter-packs/. New to Passion Struck? Start with the best episodes curated for you.
Connect with John
- Website: johnrmiles.com
- Book John to Speak: johnrmiles.com/speaking
- Substack: theignitedlife.net
- Children’s Book — You Matter, Luma: youmatterluma.com
Support the Movement: startmattering.com/. Every human deserves to feel seen, valued, and like they matter. Wear it. Live it. Show it.
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Disclaimer
The Passion Struck podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only. The views and opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of Passion Struck or its affiliates. This podcast is not a substitute for professional medical or psychological advice.
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Raw Description
Why do good companies lose their humanity? In this episode of Passion Struck, John R. Miles sits down with entrepreneur, author, and Lean Startup creator Eric Ries to explore a growing crisis hiding in plain sight: why so many people no longer trust the institutions that shape their lives. From global corporations and banks to everyday organizations, many entities begin with a clear mission to serve but gradually drift away from the core values that made them meaningful in the first place.<br /><br />Drawing from his groundbreaking new book, <i>Incorruptible: Why Good Companies Go Bad and How Great Companies Stay Great</i>, Eric explains how mission-driven organizations become vulnerable to "financial gravity"—the powerful systemic force that slowly pulls leaders away from long-term value creation and toward short-term extraction. Together, John and Eric examine why trust is the most valuable asset an organization can possess, how successful companies lose their soul, and what leaders can do to build institutions that remain aligned with their purpose for generations.<br /><br />Through the lens of real-world stories involving Costco, HEB, FedMart, Silicon Valley Bank, Walmart, Microsoft, and Amazon, this conversation reveals why organizational trust is eroding across society and what it takes to create companies that people genuinely believe in.<br /><br />In this episode, you will learn:<br /><ul><li>The hidden force of financial gravity and how it quietly reshapes organizational behavior.</li><li>Why organizations routinely lose their humanity as they become more successful.</li><li>The tragic story of Sol Price, FedMart, and the governance secrets that protect Costco today.</li><li>The critical operational difference between shareholder primacy and mission primacy.</li><li>Why Silicon Valley Bank’s collapse offers vital lessons about corporate purpose and integrity.</li><li>The concept of the invisible leader and why shared purpose shapes behavior more powerfully than hierarchy. Practical blueprints for founders, executives, entrepreneurs, and leaders who want to build organizations that endure without losing their soul.</li></ul><br /><br />Passion Struck is the #1 Health and Wellness Podcast and personal growth podcast dedicated to helping people live intentionally, unlock human potential, and create lives filled with meaning, purpose, and mattering.<br /><b></b><br /><b>Limited Time Offers:</b><br /><ul><li><b>FODZYME:</b> Get 30% off your first order when you go to <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=https%3A%2F%2FICanEatAgain.com%2FPASSIONSTRUCK" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">ICanEatAgain.com/PASSIONSTRUCK</a></li><li><b>Shopify:</b> Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at SHOPIFY.COM/PASSIONSTRUCK</li></ul><b>Full Show Notes:</b> <br /><br /><b>Download the companion Instagram Article and Workbook</b>: <br /><b></b><br /><b>Learn More About Eric Ries:</b> <a href="https://www.ericries.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.ericries.com</a><br /><b></b><br /><b>Get Eric's New Book:</b> <a href="https://amzn.to/4u2uEtv" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><i>Incorruptible: Why Good Companies Go Bad and How Great Companies Stay Great</i></a><br /><br /><br /><br /><b>Connect with John </b><br /><ul><li>Pre-Order The Mattering Effect: <a href="https://matteringeffect.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://matteringeffect.com/</a></li><li>Book John to Speak: <a href="https://johnrmiles.com/speaking/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://johnrmiles.com/speaking/</a></li><li>Keynotes, books, podcast, and resources: <a href="https://linktr.ee/John_R_Miles" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://linktr.ee/John_R_Miles</a></li><li>Children’s Book — You Matter, Luma: <a href="https://youmatterluma.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://youmatterluma.com/</a></li><li>Substack: <a href="https://www.theignitedlife.net/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.theignitedlife.net/</a></li></ul><br /><b>Support the Movement</b>: <a href="https://startmattering.com/." target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://startmattering.com/.</a> Every human deserves to feel seen, valued, and like they matter. Wear it. Live it. Show it.<br /><br /><b>Disclaimer</b><br /><br />The Passion Struck podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only. The views and opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of Passion Struck or its affiliates. This podcast is not a substitute for professional medical or psychological advice.<br /><br />
Show Notes
How does a company that starts with a meaningful mission slowly become a place people no longer trust?
It happens more often than most leaders realize. Organizations begin with a desire to serve customers, employees, and communities, but over time, pressure for short-term results can quietly pull them away from the values that once defined them. The result isn't just declining performance—it's the loss of trust, purpose, and humanity.
In this episode of Passion Struck, John R. Miles sits down with entrepreneur, bestselling author, and Lean Startup creator Eric Ries to explore why great companies lose their way—and what leaders can do to prevent it. Drawing on insights from his new book, Incorruptible, Eric introduces the idea of financial gravity, the invisible force that pulls organizations away from long-term value creation and toward short-term extraction. Through stories of companies like Costco, Microsoft, Walmart, Amazon, and Silicon Valley Bank, he reveals why trust is an organization's greatest competitive advantage and how leaders can build institutions that endure.
In this episode, you'll learn:
- Why successful companies often drift away from their original mission
- How "financial gravity" quietly reshapes leadership decisions
- The difference between building shareholder value and building lasting trust
- What organizations like Costco have done to protect their values as they grow
- Why culture alone isn't enough to keep companies aligned
- Practical strategies for creating organizations that people believe in
- How leaders can build businesses that succeed without losing their humanity
Whether you're leading a startup, a global organization, or a small team, this conversation offers a practical blueprint for creating a culture where people trust the mission as much as the results. Because the companies that stand the test of time don't just grow bigger. They stay true to what made them worth building in the first place.
Limited Time Offers:
- FODZYME: Get 30% off your first order when you go to ICanEatAgain.com/PASSIONSTRUCK
- Shopify: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at SHOPIFY.COM/PASSIONSTRUCK
Download the companion Substack Article and Workbook
Learn More About Eric Ries: ericries.com
Get Eric's New Book: Incorruptible: Why Good Companies Go Bad and How Great Companies Stay Great
Pre-Order The Mattering Effect: https://matteringeffect.com/. Take the 90-second diagnostic to see if you're disappearing.
Explore the Show: passionstruck.com/starter-packs/. New to Passion Struck? Start with the best episodes curated for you.
Connect with John
- Website: johnrmiles.com
- Book John to Speak: johnrmiles.com/speaking
- Substack: theignitedlife.net
- Children’s Book — You Matter, Luma: youmatterluma.com
Support the Movement: startmattering.com/. Every human deserves to feel seen, valued, and like they matter. Wear it. Live it. Show it.
Passion Struck — #1 Alternative Health Podcast. 85M+ downloads.
Disclaimer
The Passion Struck podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only. The views and opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of Passion Struck or its affiliates. This podcast is not a substitute for professional medical or psychological advice.
Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
Raw Description
Why do good companies lose their humanity? In this episode of Passion Struck, John R. Miles sits down with entrepreneur, author, and Lean Startup creator Eric Ries to explore a growing crisis hiding in plain sight: why so many people no longer trust the institutions that shape their lives. From global corporations and banks to everyday organizations, many entities begin with a clear mission to serve but gradually drift away from the core values that made them meaningful in the first place.<br /><br />Drawing from his groundbreaking new book, <i>Incorruptible: Why Good Companies Go Bad and How Great Companies Stay Great</i>, Eric explains how mission-driven organizations become vulnerable to "financial gravity"—the powerful systemic force that slowly pulls leaders away from long-term value creation and toward short-term extraction. Together, John and Eric examine why trust is the most valuable asset an organization can possess, how successful companies lose their soul, and what leaders can do to build institutions that remain aligned with their purpose for generations.<br /><br />Through the lens of real-world stories involving Costco, HEB, FedMart, Silicon Valley Bank, Walmart, Microsoft, and Amazon, this conversation reveals why organizational trust is eroding across society and what it takes to create companies that people genuinely believe in.<br /><br />In this episode, you will learn:<br /><ul><li>The hidden force of financial gravity and how it quietly reshapes organizational behavior.</li><li>Why organizations routinely lose their humanity as they become more successful.</li><li>The tragic story of Sol Price, FedMart, and the governance secrets that protect Costco today.</li><li>The critical operational difference between shareholder primacy and mission primacy.</li><li>Why Silicon Valley Bank’s collapse offers vital lessons about corporate purpose and integrity.</li><li>The concept of the invisible leader and why shared purpose shapes behavior more powerfully than hierarchy. Practical blueprints for founders, executives, entrepreneurs, and leaders who want to build organizations that endure without losing their soul.</li></ul><br /><br />Passion Struck is the #1 Health and Wellness Podcast and personal growth podcast dedicated to helping people live intentionally, unlock human potential, and create lives filled with meaning, purpose, and mattering.<br /><b></b><br /><b>Limited Time Offers:</b><br /><ul><li><b>FODZYME:</b> Get 30% off your first order when you go to <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=https%3A%2F%2FICanEatAgain.com%2FPASSIONSTRUCK" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">ICanEatAgain.com/PASSIONSTRUCK</a></li><li><b>Shopify:</b> Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at SHOPIFY.COM/PASSIONSTRUCK</li></ul><b>Full Show Notes:</b> <br /><br /><b>Download the companion Instagram Article and Workbook</b>: <br /><b></b><br /><b>Learn More About Eric Ries:</b> <a href="https://www.ericries.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.ericries.com</a><br /><b></b><br /><b>Get Eric's New Book:</b> <a href="https://amzn.to/4u2uEtv" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><i>Incorruptible: Why Good Companies Go Bad and How Great Companies Stay Great</i></a><br /><br /><br /><br /><b>Connect with John </b><br /><ul><li>Pre-Order The Mattering Effect: <a href="https://matteringeffect.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://matteringeffect.com/</a></li><li>Book John to Speak: <a href="https://johnrmiles.com/speaking/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://johnrmiles.com/speaking/</a></li><li>Keynotes, books, podcast, and resources: <a href="https://linktr.ee/John_R_Miles" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://linktr.ee/John_R_Miles</a></li><li>Children’s Book — You Matter, Luma: <a href="https://youmatterluma.com/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://youmatterluma.com/</a></li><li>Substack: <a href="https://www.theignitedlife.net/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.theignitedlife.net/</a></li></ul><br /><b>Support the Movement</b>: <a href="https://startmattering.com/." target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://startmattering.com/.</a> Every human deserves to feel seen, valued, and like they matter. Wear it. Live it. Show it.<br /><br /><b>Disclaimer</b><br /><br />The Passion Struck podcast is for educational and entertainment purposes only. The views and opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of Passion Struck or its affiliates. This podcast is not a substitute for professional medical or psychological advice.<br /><br />